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Massive Die Break Lincoln Cent

commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,097 ✭✭✭
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Bought this a few weeks ago.

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-Paul
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  • RobbRobb Posts: 2,034 ✭
    Good God, I guess! That's a thing of beauty!
    imageRIP
  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would have to say that is more than a die crack! More like a massive die break. That is a neat coin. image
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No words for that one. Looks like Lincoln got his head blown off! Morbidly weird!

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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,447 ✭✭✭
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    thats amazing

    he's got a flat top tooimage

    like a half done sculpture

    one now wonders if this could be given "last strike" status
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can someone explain how that would occur?
    LCoopie = Les
  • dan8402dan8402 Posts: 2,163


    << <i>Can someone explain how that would occur? >>



    I'm guessing it was struck after the die broke but before it was replaced.
  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,097 ✭✭✭


    << <i>
    << Can someone explain how that would occur? >>



    I'm guessing it was struck after the die broke but before it was replaced. >>



    Correct!

    -Paul
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  • YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220 ✭
    Calling Mr Fred Weinberg! I have never seen anything like this before, I wonder If Mr Weinberg can give a rough value on this one.
  • coinnuttiuscoinnuttius Posts: 547


    << <i>Bought this a few weeks ago.


    Holy crack, it's HUGE! image
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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    CUD!!!!

    AHHHHH, it's a CUD-ZILLA. Run Lincoln RUN...... image
  • raysrays Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could this error be the result of a flawed planchet (cracked, delaminated, or whatever) and not from a cracked die? The rough edge at the back of Lincoln's bust doesn't look like a die break to me.
  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Could this error be the result of a flawed planchet (cracked, delaminated, or whatever) and not from a cracked die? The rough edge at the back of Lincoln's bust doesn't look like a die break to me. >>




    That ragged edge is what proves it is a die break. That, and the extreme weakness on the reverse from the lack of metal to flow into the reverse die. I have NEVER seen a die break this big. AMAZING coin!!



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  • halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭
    Bet'ya when that hunk of die came flying off, it woke the press operator up! image

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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    if the dye was broken
    wouldn't the reverse side not struck be the opposite site, not the same side
    ie the right side of the reverse??
    LCoopie = Les
  • sumduncesumdunce Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭✭
    Amazing.

    You would think the die would be replaced before it broke up this much.



    S
  • dan8402dan8402 Posts: 2,163


    << <i>if the dye was broken
    wouldn't the reverse side not struck be the opposite site, not the same side
    ie the right side of the reverse?? >>



    I think you're visualizing the coin backwards...I think. The head of Lincoln would be on the same end of the coin as the bottom of the memorial. The pictures are posted as they are just so that the coin is bottom down for both pictures.

    Edited to clarify.
  • oxy8890oxy8890 Posts: 1,416 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>if the dye was broken
    wouldn't the reverse side not struck be the opposite site, not the same side
    ie the right side of the reverse?? >>



    I think you're visualizing the coin backwards...I think. The head of Lincoln would be on the same end of the coin as the bottom of the memorial. The pictures are posted as they are just so that the coin is bottom down for both pictures.

    Edited to clarify. >>



    I believe you are Correct, if you look at a Lincoln Memorial you will see that the pictures match the way they should when the cent is flipped and turned.
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  • mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭
    Wish I could see the picture, any chance I can get this e-mailed to me?

    mrpaseo@gmail.com

    For some reason I have issues opening pictures on this site... Sadly, this is the one site I want to see pictures.

    Ray
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Massive CUD!

    Like Stone said

    image

    Ed
  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The die broke in half, with one side falling away while the other half was still secured by set screws. Since there would be no pressure exerted from the missing half when striking planchets, the corresponding details on the reverse did not receive the proper design.
  • coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭
    Coins like this one are quite scarce, and this one is a very nice example. If I were the owner I wouldn't sell below $100.
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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I knew before the picture was loaded that the coin would be a 1971-D. I think there is actually a stage of that cud with even more of the die missing, I've seen one with the break perfectly bisecting the coin from 12:00 to 6:00. I'll try to dig up a picture and post if to the thread.


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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now that is amazing... very nice find. Cheers, RickO
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>if the dye was broken
    wouldn't the reverse side not struck be the opposite site, not the same side
    ie the right side of the reverse?? >>



    I think you're visualizing the coin backwards...I think. The head of Lincoln would be on the same end of the coin as the bottom of the memorial. The pictures are posted as they are just so that the coin is bottom down for both pictures.

    Edited to clarify. >>



    I believe you are Correct, if you look at a Lincoln Memorial you will see that the pictures match the way they should when the cent is flipped and turned. >>



    Thanks, you both are right, I had to actually get a coin to understand.
    LCoopie = Les
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
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    If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay? Fantastic cud!


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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,097 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay? >>



    $30

    -Paul
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  • robecrobec Posts: 6,903 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay? >>



    $30

    -Paul >>



    You suck Paul. What a great find. You could probably look long and hard and not find another one that dramatic.

    - Bob -

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  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,827 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice!!!!
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  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay? >>



    $30

    -Paul >>




    That's IT!?? Wow! You Suck!



    -Paul
    NGC 2.1 Census! PM me yours!
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Very cool,

    I too would like to see what Fred has to say about this one.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>if the dye was broken
    wouldn't the reverse side not struck be the opposite site, not the same side
    ie the right side of the reverse?? >>



    American coinage flips from North to South with the pivot point at West and East so the break does occur on the same side of the coin.

    Foreign coinage flips from East to West with a North and south pivot point. Much like turning the page in a book.
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  • BlackborderBlackborder Posts: 2,797 ✭


    << <i>Wish I could see the picture, any chance I can get this e-mailed to me?

    mrpaseo@gmail.com

    For some reason I have issues opening pictures on this site... Sadly, this is the one site I want to see pictures.

    Ray >>




    Try cutting and pasting the pic URL directly in your browser. That usually works.
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    image
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